Now that I've had a chance to think about it (and see it again - yes, I'm a sucker. I wanna make sure I didn't like it), I can kinda sorta pinpoint why Burton's
Alice in Wonderland left me cold.
As in a lot of films (as
Joshua James would tell you), the weakness was story.
Burton's
Alice in Wonderland is one of those rare film failures that combines two contradictory mistakes: too much story and not enough story.
Carroll's books don't make sense. Why does this happen? What does that mean? Who the fuck knows - that's the point! You're supposed to be swept up in this crazy world where you never know what will happen next or who will cross your path. That's why it's called, you know, Wonderland. Talking caterpillars smoking hooka on a mushroom. Queens and cards and flamingo croquet. Mad Hatters at tea parties with March Hares. And so on and so forth.
Alice in Wonderland is supposed to make about as much sense as this . . .
Pretty much everyone has said the same thing about this film. I still plan to see it tomorrow after work (yes I know I'm asking for it) just to see the train wreck first hand.
ReplyDeleteAnd I already know I'm gonna be disappointed because the movie won't have the awesome ideas you just listed here.
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ReplyDeleteY'see, this is why being a fangirl is a net positive -- you see how a Precious National Resource is being wasted. (One day I'll share about my detox from Shatner... it took *decades* to stop believing he'd act in a good film one more time.)
ReplyDeleteI think Burton holds on to what worked in his past: Depp, whimsy, over-reliance on SFX and set design. Would a decent scriptwriter with pride ever trust him with a script after MARS ATTACKS showed his contempt for quality ingredients? I still get enraged at how he wasted Nicholson and Close on a nihilist joke. You can Hate America, bukko (which, in fact, he said he feared the US, which is why he moved abroad), but don't hate the tools you must use to create those big canvases you like.
And don't get me started on his Lisa Marie-reliance on the new Mrs. Burton. Anthony Head and Mr. Christopher Lee himself couldn't work on SWEENEY TODD, which meant altering the book to have no chorus whatsoever, because they'd show up the Depp, who was undersinging so as to not show up the Mrs? That's not Majel Barrett-lame, that's *Cleo Moore-lame*. Also, Burton's fascinated with monstrous women, but he doesn't have the balls to fully flesh out those characters, because he's stuck in that Wounded Boy paradigm which means you don't reveal how you hate Mommy too much. Why can't we fear and love female characters who are as complex as Edward S.? Beetle J? Jeezum crow, Burton, grow up. You're a big director with big budgets -- take the responsibility of telling grown-up stories.
I have wanted movies to wow me as hard as Pee wee and Beetlejuice, but I guess I should stop waiting. He ain't gonna do it -- better switch my bets to Del Toro.
cgeye,
ReplyDeleteI have wanted movies to wow me as hard as Pee wee and Beetlejuice, but I guess I should stop waiting. He ain't gonna do it -- better switch my bets to Del Toro.
*sigh*
I know.
HELLBOY movies have been Worth It, so go know.
ReplyDeleteI think it's due to the same syndrome that playwrights face -- praise from highbrow sources that disconnect from the lowbrow. Not that I want Burton to go all Apatow-womit-n-poop jokes, but at least stop letting his inner child get all precious and tubercular.
I think having to follow up ED WOOD with something grander broke him, and POTA was his admission of this, with the Big Action Scenes with No Heart required (Markie Mark, as a Burtonian hero? Really?), and that's a damn shame.
cgeye,
ReplyDeleteYeah. When was the last time he directed his own story?
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/post/121789-is-it-time-for-tim-burton-to-find-his-schindlers-list/
ReplyDeleteSaw ALICE yesterday. At least your girl tried.
ReplyDelete*sigh*.
I've never seen a frustration of energy in a performance, coated in sickening white meringue design. Hathaway so desperately wanted to give context to a woman who works her darkness through other people, but her bits were softened. It was like watching TIN MAN, in the fear the writers had for female power... when its main antagonists were powerful females.
Oh, yeah -- Miss RVC, Miss Genevieve; Miss Genevieve, Miss RVC:
http://glvalentine.livejournal.com/254347.html
Miss Genevieve's as incisive about the potency of cheap fantasy/SF as you are... and she loves the costumes....